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Comparing usenet newsgroups to web services and peer to peer programs

Usenet vs pay web sites vs Kazza, Morpheus, Bit-Torrent et. al.
 
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So you're looking for pictures, movies, video, or MP3 music on the Internet.  You have a lot of choices, including file sharing networks (Kazza, etc) and paid membership web sites.  How does a Usenet newsgroup server service compare?

  • Peer to Peer networks 
    • File sharing networks like Kazza, Morpheus, and Direct Connect are technically amazing.  

    • The downside is that service is spotty, and all of the programs (except direct connect and E-Donkey) install spyware that you can't uninstall.  They track your usage, what sites you visit, pop up new windows with ads (especially Gator) over everything you do.  The part we think is most unethical is that when you go to one of the amateur webcam sites that pays its bills with links to Amazon or some other store - the spyware hijacks each of those sales so the webcam owner doesn't get the commissions.  We think that's unfair.  
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    • Another big problem is that filenames are often fakes, you never know if you'll end up getting the whole file before the person on the other end logs off, and you can wait days before you get a complete file.  Additionally you must expose your own computer files to the internet, so that others can read your public directories.  

    • But the worst part is that they are usually just plain old slow.   Your 1.5mbs cable connection doesn't do you any good when the guy with the file you want is on a 128K upload DSL line that is 20 hops away.

    • MP3 files: If there is one place where file sharing networks shine, it is in trading MP3 files.  But you have to know what you are searching for, and you have to consider that some file names are mis-spelled on purpose to get around filters. 

    • Video: File sharing networks are also good for distributing large video files (avi and mpg).  If you are lucky enough to get a good connection to someone with a good film library, your chances of downloading a full-length movie are not that bad.  However, finding full length movies is not all that easy - more often than not, you end up spending 37 hours downloading a James Bond movie only to find the file stops 15 minutes before the end of the movie.  On the other hand, if you have a GOOD usenet server service with high completion rates, you can reliably download movies very fast.  But you have to have a really good newsgroup provider.

    • Images: Peer to peer is not the place to find pictures.  Picture file names rarely describe what is in them, and most of the time that someone has gone to the trouble to enter a file description in the hidden properties fields, it is SPAM.  

    • Discussion / Community: While some of the peer to peer networks include a chat function, it is rarely used.  It is also not archived, so it cannot really build community.  So if you are looking for a place to discuss the career of model Julia Hayes and share pictures of her work, peer to peer networks are not the place to do it.

  • Paid web sites
    • Payments: Adult topic web sites pop up and close down quite quickly.  Many are pure scams, others overstate what they will deliver.  Few give out information about their actual operating location.  When you are typing in your credit card information online, you can't be sure who you are actually sending it to.  Further, many companies set you up on "recurring" monthly fees without asking you first.  Stopping these fees can be a full time job, as you get shuffled from one a form, to an email, to a billing company.  

    • Fees: Most web sites charge at least $10 per month, some as many as $30.  Sometimes this entitles you to a family of web sites, although most are so interconnected that they have what amounts to the same content on each. 

    • Freshness: The majority of the adult web sites are fairly static.  They were created with purchased pictures and videos, and once put online change little.  At best they may add one new photo series or video per week or even month.  If you like the convenience of a web interface with picture previews, but want the fresh content that Usenet provides, we highly recommend GUBA or ThumbnailedNewsgroups usenet access.  These services collect all the picture and video files posted to the alt.binary.* newsgroups, assemble the pieces on their servers, creating pages of thumbnails for previews of both pictures AND videos, which you can download as much as you want.

    • Topics: When it comes to topics, paid web services do shine.  There are specialty sites for everything, down to corseted women who smoke cigars.  However, the Usenet newsgroup hierarchy is equally diverse.

  • Usenet newsgroups 
    • Fees and Payments: For anywhere from $6 to $20 per month, you can have access to an average of over 500,000 binary files that rotate daily/weekly.  Rates are even lower when you purchase services in 6 month or 1 year packages.  You will be able to find a physical office location for the newsgroup server provider before providing all your payment details (Don't sign up for any that do not publish this information), and do not have to worry about some strange, pornographic sounding company name showing up in your credit card billings.

    • File Types: If it can be stored digitally, you can find it on Usenet.  MP3 files are very common, with many newsgroups devoted to specific bands and styles of music.  Video (avi and mpg) newsgroups are also growing in popularity; although if you want to make use of the video newsgroups it is important that you choose a newsgroup service that has high completion and long retention rates (ie costs more).  Pictures are where Usenet really shines.  And finally, let us not forget plain old text.  There are some very good writers out there who post their wares to Usenet, including newsgroups devoted to erotic literature.

    • Discussion / topics: The list of topics is fairly exhaustive.  There are also mechanisms to create new groups as society creates new interests.   For a complete list of defined newsgroups (most service providers only carry the active ones), click here.

    • Freshness / requests: Estimates vary, but generally 100,000 to 150,000 binary files are posted to Usenet servers daily, with at least as many more posts that are text discussion.  You never have to worry about stale content, or not finding something new each week.  The medium is contributive; any person with access to the newsgroup can add both text and files.  Therefore, newsgroups include significant amounts of amateur material.  Further, if you have a special interest you can usually post a text message asking if anyone has material on that interest and it is quite likely that someone will post what you are looking for.  You most definitely will not get that from a paid web service.

    • Simplicity: Between the newsgroup hierarchy itself and the functionality built into most newsreaders, it's pretty easy to find and download the binary files you want.  For those who like the convenience of being able to preview files before they download, the Web Thumbnail  systems like GUBA or ThumbnailedNewsgroups are as easy to use as any commercial web site, but include much more material.  

    • Copyright: One thing to keep in mind is that files that you find on Usenet are not necessarily copyright free.  Many, many files have been copied from paid websites and posted on the Usenet without their owners permission.  While it is not illegal per-se to download these files, one should give thought before uploading files.  For those that wish to upload files, it is important to look for a newsgroup server service that withholds the header records that can be used to trace back to the original poster (look for an "A" in the server table)

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